#1 - We made AI the fourth person in every meeting Ship the Diff https://shipthediff.com/episodes/001-ai-in-every-meeting/ Our meeting recorder is no longer just taking notes. We treat AI like a fourth participant: we give it context before the call, let it capture the conversation, and expect it to turn what we said into work. YouTube: https://youtu.be/PySZhbWhV9Q Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/3OPEEoztISxjahvG26aFYE Transcript 00:00 Hello everyone and welcome to Ship the Diff. Ship the Diff. That's the name of the podcast. 00:08 Not something else, right? Okay. But welcome to Ship the Diff, episode number one. I am 00:13 doing this from the car, actually. Last time I had a really nice setup with my mic and 00:18 you know tripod and everything, but I actually just built a... I think I talked about that 00:26 last time as well, but I just built a CLI tool for my agent, whether it's Codex or 00:34 Claude Code, whatever, to edit the video, make thumbnails and all of that stuff, 00:40 description, title and everything. But it also uses some open source models, open 00:47 source AI models from Hugging Face to do denoising of the recording. So what 00:54 people usually is complaining about when I do these videos in the car is that 01:01 there's a lot of noise, right? But that one model just completely eliminates 01:06 that noise. And then there's another model doing voice enhancement and then 01:12 there's just loudness, compression stuff going on that it also does, right? And 01:18 it also edits the video if I have something that I won't edit it, right? 01:23 So yeah, and actually that's open source, so you can go to computerlove.tech, 01:28 GitHub, and check out repos and then there's a project called video edit CLI and you 01:36 can use that. I think it's also on PyPI actually, so you can use that for your 01:41 own agent. There's a skill with it that instructs the agent on how to use it and 01:46 then you can have Codex or Claude Code or whatever agent you're using edit video 01:53 that's pretty cool I think. So yeah, that's why I'm not recording but of 01:59 course you can see that because you're behind, you're not kind of like behind 02:02 the camera, right? So you don't care all right. So whatever, just a side note. 02:09 The first episode of Ship the Diff, I was actually planning to have my co -founders 02:13 in this video just to introduce them to you guys but my son got sick 02:19 yesterday and I planned to meet up with them yesterday and recorded there and 02:24 you know life happened and now the only time to record this episode is in the 02:31 car right now so that's what we're doing. And luckily I have that video editing tool so 02:37 yeah so all of the noise cancellation and not noise cancellation but the 02:41 yeah noise reduction I guess can be handled by that. Okay whatever, past week in the 02:47 business just quickly let me tell you about that. First of all we have gotten 02:51 our ChatGPT or like our OpenAI team subscription so we can use Codex, me and Jonas 03:00 that's really nice. I'm using it via the Codex harness and Jonas is using it via 03:08 the Pi harness you know that really hipster agent harness that is super you 03:14 know bare bones and minimalistic and then you can kind of like extend it as you need it 03:18 as needed edits open source and all of that. And Christian he has he is also in another company 03:25 called N5 who's also our partner company they do hosting and they're kind of like a managed 03:35 service provider company in Aarhus but Christian has Claude Code so he's just using Claude Code on 03:42 the subscription he got there so yeah but that's a big deal right and then another thing we have 03:47 talked a lot about is that you know we are having a lot of meetings talking about our business and 03:53 talking about strategy and all of that stuff what should we do and you know doing yeah just talk 04:00 business stuff right and we until now we haven't had a tool you know we have had you know a little 04:08 here and there but we haven't had a kind of like a shared tool that we do meeting recordings with 04:14 and you know you don't want to be meeting pops up we can actually record it of course we always 04:19 ask if we have some external on right but yeah but we just got Wispr Flow they they just and I'm 04:28 not sure if you you know Wispr Flow but that is the sort of like tap a keyboard a key on your 04:36 keyboard and then you can dictate right and that's that's usually faster than just typing to your agent 04:44 yeah but they recently I think got a meeting transcription feature or something like that 04:52 I think they call it note taker but I'm more like interested in that the fact that it actually 04:58 transcribes the meeting and we just got that and we've really we actually changed the way 05:04 we have meetings now because we are basically viewing Wispr Flow or the AI agent as a 05:14 fourth participant when we're with me and my two co -founders are having a meeting we're basically 05:19 viewing the AI as a fourth participant in the meeting that can actually you know 05:27 use the stuff that we say and actually act on it and you know we we also very kind of like 05:32 aware that we need to give it context on you know what is this meeting about to kind of like give 05:38 it a easier time to to figure that out right and already that has been pretty game -changing and 05:44 we have already we're already thinking about a way to to basically make a yeah as everyone else I 05:52 guess basically make a company brain right that is that has all of our knowledge and all of the 05:58 stuff that we are ever ever said and maybe create some knowledge graph on top of it and 06:05 yeah just you know creates incredible rich context for AI agents to to really do a great job in 06:13 you know just understand what's going on and and actually act on some of the tasks that we have 06:19 we also had another we also just join us just install or what you could say self -hosted 06:28 another tool called Vikunja which is a task management system you know it's open source 06:35 you can also pay for it but we just hosted it ourselves ourselves and that's it I should also 06:42 pretty cool to have that to kind of like have tasks and organize it like that and assign tasks to 06:51 different people but they of course Vikunja of course all of course also have an MCP integration 06:58 right so we can actually yeah and that's just very kind of like a very cool thing that you could 07:04 you can combine your meeting notes with a basically a tickets ticket system or a task 07:11 management system and then you know orchestrate like that of course you know that has always been 07:15 the case right or at least for some time there's something about you know task management systems 07:21 like for example Linear, GitHub Issues, GitHub Projects, for example this Vikunja, 07:29 Jira and so on right it seems like an important part of actually collaborating with agents and 07:36 having them assigning tasks to the tasks to them and clarifying context and stuff like that right 07:42 managing work done by agents yes and then a couple of days ago not yeah two days ago I think we had 07:56 a kind of like a meeting after the summer vacation where we're kind of like talked about what is going 08:00 to happen in the next six months and also actually two years what's kind of like the the the direction 08:06 and the vision for the company right and that was really really nice to kind of like because we 08:12 think we have all been thinking a lot during the summer vacation and have kind of had kind of like 08:19 identified some of the same problems and some of the same challenges challenges and obstacles 08:25 that prevented us from making this transition from being a basically a consultancy company 08:33 basically selling our hours to becoming a software product company selling software 08:43 SaaS style right you know recurring revenue style that's not something that you just do 08:49 from one day to the other we're very aware of that but we would like to be at least on a trajectory 08:56 trajectory well that's a hard hard word right okay trajectory to to becoming a product company 09:04 yeah we want that and it's just it's just very important I think for 09:12 consultancy companies I think many consultancy companies would agree on this it's very important 09:22 consultancy companies to to actually not fall or not go into the trap of you know 09:32 it's very okay how do I say this so it's very consultancy when you're selling your hours it is very 09:40 it's basically the easy way to get get yourself funded right because you can sell your hours right 09:46 right here and right now but when you're trying to build a SaaS product or a software product 09:53 that you're willing to sell on a subscription because that's the same right it usually takes 10:00 some time and you have to have some kind of funding mechanism to to to get that to get that rolling 10:06 right so and a danger that on the least and we are very aware of is that we need to prioritize the 10:17 the product development work and not get caught up in you know meeting demand which which which are 10:26 there we our struggle right now is actually to to protect the time that we have to develop product 10:32 and not just do consultancy all the time because there's good money in it and there's a demand right 10:40 and that we take very seriously because we we know that if we we don't do that we will just end up 10:48 becoming a consultancy company yeah but it's also it's not because there's anything wrong with that 10:55 but that that's just not what we want right and we might also end up with kind of like a mix 11:02 of being a consultancy company and a software product company 11:07 you mainly because we we we would need you know some forward deployed engineers to to to actually 11:15 go out to our customers and build relations with them and maybe also sell actually and 11:22 and also implement and and and give advice and stuff like that so so yeah um yes but the the actual 11:34 i think i will share more about the strategy and the vision and all of that and what we kind of 11:38 like figured out at that meeting at some other point um yeah because uh because i don't i've 11:45 that's actually i think i've been thinking a lot about with this podcast because 11:53 there's a lot of uh stuff you know when you have a business with some some other people and 11:59 you also have customers and stuff like that it's it's um timing in when you actually publish stuff 12:08 and say things out in the public can kind of like be sometimes a little 12:19 yeah it can be a little important not to say certain stuff at certain points but 12:26 wait until some other point i don't know right but uh yeah but let's just say that for another episode 12:31 because i don't think we're kind of like ready to talk about that yet but you might 12:37 if you're followed me online you might be have an idea of what we are working on right now to 12:44 actually publish and launch here in the near future so so yeah but i think that was it for 12:52 the first episode of Ship the Diff let me know what you think in the comments and remember to 12:59 subscribe and remember to uh to yeah just uh just uh 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