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#1 - We made AI the fourth person in every meeting

Our meeting recorder is no longer just taking notes. We treat AI like a fourth participant: we give it context before the call, let it capture the conversation, and expect it to turn what we said into work.

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    Hello everyone and welcome to Ship the Diff. Ship the Diff. That's the name of the podcast.

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    Not something else, right? Okay. But welcome to Ship the Diff, episode number one. I am

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    doing this from the car, actually. Last time I had a really nice setup with my mic and

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    you know tripod and everything, but I actually just built a... I think I talked about that

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    last time as well, but I just built a CLI tool for my agent, whether it's Codex or

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    Claude Code, whatever, to edit the video, make thumbnails and all of that stuff,

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    description, title and everything. But it also uses some open source models, open

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    source AI models from Hugging Face to do denoising of the recording. So what

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    people usually is complaining about when I do these videos in the car is that

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    there's a lot of noise, right? But that one model just completely eliminates

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    that noise. And then there's another model doing voice enhancement and then

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    there's just loudness, compression stuff going on that it also does, right? And

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    it also edits the video if I have something that I won't edit it, right?

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    So yeah, and actually that's open source, so you can go to computerlove.tech,

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    GitHub, and check out repos and then there's a project called video edit CLI and you

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    can use that. I think it's also on PyPI actually, so you can use that for your

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    own agent. There's a skill with it that instructs the agent on how to use it and

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    then you can have Codex or Claude Code or whatever agent you're using edit video

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    that's pretty cool I think. So yeah, that's why I'm not recording but of

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    course you can see that because you're behind, you're not kind of like behind

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    the camera, right? So you don't care all right. So whatever, just a side note.

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    The first episode of Ship the Diff, I was actually planning to have my co -founders

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    in this video just to introduce them to you guys but my son got sick

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    yesterday and I planned to meet up with them yesterday and recorded there and

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    you know life happened and now the only time to record this episode is in the

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    car right now so that's what we're doing. And luckily I have that video editing tool so

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    yeah so all of the noise cancellation and not noise cancellation but the

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    yeah noise reduction I guess can be handled by that. Okay whatever, past week in the

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    business just quickly let me tell you about that. First of all we have gotten

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    our ChatGPT or like our OpenAI team subscription so we can use Codex, me and Jonas

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    that's really nice. I'm using it via the Codex harness and Jonas is using it via

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    the Pi harness you know that really hipster agent harness that is super you

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    know bare bones and minimalistic and then you can kind of like extend it as you need it

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    as needed edits open source and all of that. And Christian he has he is also in another company

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    called N5 who's also our partner company they do hosting and they're kind of like a managed

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    service provider company in Aarhus but Christian has Claude Code so he's just using Claude Code on

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    the subscription he got there so yeah but that's a big deal right and then another thing we have

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    talked a lot about is that you know we are having a lot of meetings talking about our business and

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    talking about strategy and all of that stuff what should we do and you know doing yeah just talk

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    business stuff right and we until now we haven't had a tool you know we have had you know a little

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    here and there but we haven't had a kind of like a shared tool that we do meeting recordings with

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    and you know you don't want to be meeting pops up we can actually record it of course we always

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    ask if we have some external on right but yeah but we just got Wispr Flow they they just and I'm

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    not sure if you you know Wispr Flow but that is the sort of like tap a keyboard a key on your

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    keyboard and then you can dictate right and that's that's usually faster than just typing to your agent

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    yeah but they recently I think got a meeting transcription feature or something like that

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    I think they call it note taker but I'm more like interested in that the fact that it actually

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    transcribes the meeting and we just got that and we've really we actually changed the way

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    we have meetings now because we are basically viewing Wispr Flow or the AI agent as a

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    fourth participant when we're with me and my two co -founders are having a meeting we're basically

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    viewing the AI as a fourth participant in the meeting that can actually you know

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    use the stuff that we say and actually act on it and you know we we also very kind of like

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    aware that we need to give it context on you know what is this meeting about to kind of like give

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    it a easier time to to figure that out right and already that has been pretty game -changing and

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    we have already we're already thinking about a way to to basically make a yeah as everyone else I

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    guess basically make a company brain right that is that has all of our knowledge and all of the

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    stuff that we are ever ever said and maybe create some knowledge graph on top of it and

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    yeah just you know creates incredible rich context for AI agents to to really do a great job in

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    you know just understand what's going on and and actually act on some of the tasks that we have

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    we also had another we also just join us just install or what you could say self -hosted

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    another tool called Vikunja which is a task management system you know it's open source

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    you can also pay for it but we just hosted it ourselves ourselves and that's it I should also

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    pretty cool to have that to kind of like have tasks and organize it like that and assign tasks to

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    different people but they of course Vikunja of course all of course also have an MCP integration

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    right so we can actually yeah and that's just very kind of like a very cool thing that you could

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    you can combine your meeting notes with a basically a tickets ticket system or a task

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    management system and then you know orchestrate like that of course you know that has always been

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    the case right or at least for some time there's something about you know task management systems

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    like for example Linear, GitHub Issues, GitHub Projects, for example this Vikunja,

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    Jira and so on right it seems like an important part of actually collaborating with agents and

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    having them assigning tasks to the tasks to them and clarifying context and stuff like that right

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    managing work done by agents yes and then a couple of days ago not yeah two days ago I think we had

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    a kind of like a meeting after the summer vacation where we're kind of like talked about what is going

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    to happen in the next six months and also actually two years what's kind of like the the the direction

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    and the vision for the company right and that was really really nice to kind of like because we

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    think we have all been thinking a lot during the summer vacation and have kind of had kind of like

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    identified some of the same problems and some of the same challenges challenges and obstacles

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    that prevented us from making this transition from being a basically a consultancy company

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    basically selling our hours to becoming a software product company selling software

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    SaaS style right you know recurring revenue style that's not something that you just do

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    from one day to the other we're very aware of that but we would like to be at least on a trajectory

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    trajectory well that's a hard hard word right okay trajectory to to becoming a product company

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    yeah we want that and it's just it's just very important I think for

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    consultancy companies I think many consultancy companies would agree on this it's very important

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    consultancy companies to to actually not fall or not go into the trap of you know

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    it's very okay how do I say this so it's very consultancy when you're selling your hours it is very

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    it's basically the easy way to get get yourself funded right because you can sell your hours right

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    right here and right now but when you're trying to build a SaaS product or a software product

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    that you're willing to sell on a subscription because that's the same right it usually takes

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    some time and you have to have some kind of funding mechanism to to to get that to get that rolling

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    right so and a danger that on the least and we are very aware of is that we need to prioritize the

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    the product development work and not get caught up in you know meeting demand which which which are

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    there we our struggle right now is actually to to protect the time that we have to develop product

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    and not just do consultancy all the time because there's good money in it and there's a demand right

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    and that we take very seriously because we we know that if we we don't do that we will just end up

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    becoming a consultancy company yeah but it's also it's not because there's anything wrong with that

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    but that that's just not what we want right and we might also end up with kind of like a mix

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    of being a consultancy company and a software product company

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    you mainly because we we we would need you know some forward deployed engineers to to to actually

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    go out to our customers and build relations with them and maybe also sell actually and

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    and also implement and and and give advice and stuff like that so so yeah um yes but the the actual

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    i think i will share more about the strategy and the vision and all of that and what we kind of

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    like figured out at that meeting at some other point um yeah because uh because i don't i've

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    that's actually i think i've been thinking a lot about with this podcast because

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    there's a lot of uh stuff you know when you have a business with some some other people and

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    you also have customers and stuff like that it's it's um timing in when you actually publish stuff

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    and say things out in the public can kind of like be sometimes a little

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    yeah it can be a little important not to say certain stuff at certain points but

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    wait until some other point i don't know right but uh yeah but let's just say that for another episode

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    because i don't think we're kind of like ready to talk about that yet but you might

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    if you're followed me online you might be have an idea of what we are working on right now to

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    actually publish and launch here in the near future so so yeah but i think that was it for

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    the first episode of Ship the Diff let me know what you think in the comments and remember to

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    subscribe and remember to uh to yeah just uh just uh text me if there's anything uh i would like

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    i would love to hear from you and uh also maybe you you have a company right maybe you have some

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    product that you want to promote um you could also do i i guess you could also do that in the

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    common comments right because it's it's kind of like a pretty business oriented this this podcast

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    right so yeah do that see ya